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For most new-ish players out there the topic of forges is somewhat confusing (it was for me at least). Most of the cool stuff requires so much tools...<br>
'''Guide based on {{InlineVer|0.D}}.'''
But fear not! With this simple (and I hope short) guide you'll learn basics of forgery in no time!<br>
Some of the information present here might not apply to future versions.
So, in order to start doing anything related you need to look for one thing:<br>
[[Welder]]. You **could**, theoretically speaking, go and find forge, either electric or charcoal, but you have much more chances at finding welder. Or, for that matter, [[acetylene torch]], but it's finite and non-rechargeable, so use wisely.


You could also make a makeshift welder (recipe is found on mechanics-related books, heating elements you can get by disassembling ovens in houses (1-4, depends on your skills and luck), everything else needed is easily-found), but it drains through batteries even faster than factory-made one.
{{ver|0.D}}


Makeshift welder requires:
Blacksmithing or forging items in CDDA is a useful way of creating high end equipment.  Forging requires a lot of things:
:1 tool with hammering quality of 1    (a [[rock]] will do)
* raw steel
:<br>
* a forge
:3x [[heating element]]                    (disassemble ovens)
* forging tools
:2x [[scrap metal]]                        (don't say me you can't find one)
* fuel
:8x [[copper wire]]                        (most of the electronics have some, you can also find it in electronics store)
* high Fabrication skill


The next step is to craft your own personal forge. You'll need fabrication-related book as well as moderately high skill. You'll need even more heating elements, plus power converter (look for electronic stuff to disassemble).<br>
This guide will cover building a forge from scratch, and then mention various short cuts.
''By the way, the recipe states you can also use soldering iron to make it, but soldering iron can't hold that much charges unless you use double battery mod. Or two charged soldering irons, I dunno, that *might* work, if it is (or is not), you can say about it at talk page.''


Electric forge requires:
But first, a quick overview of what you need:
:1 tool with hammering quality of 3    ([[hammer]], you'll have to find one if you didn't yet)
:1 tool with metal sawing quality of 1 ([[hacksaw]])
:1 tool with screw driving quality of 1([[screwdriver]], duh)
:1 tool with bolt turning quality of 1 ([[pliers]] or [[wrench]], you'll want to have latter)
:welder (200 charges) OR makeshift welder (300 charges) OR integrated toolset (300 charges) OR soldering iron (300 charges) OR acetylene torch (20 charges)
:<br>
:8x [[heating element]]
:1x [[lump of steel]] OR 4x [[chunk of steel]] OR 12x [[scrap metal]]
:4x [[copper wire]]
:1x [[power converter]]                    (terminals will have some, you could also disassemble some of the substation to get it)


Charcoal forge requires (you will need a lot of charcoal, remember):
=== Raw Steel ===
:1 tool with hammering quality of 3    ([[hammer]], you'll have to find one if you didn't yet)
To make something out of steel, you need steel.  [[scrap metal|Scrap metal]], [[chunk of steel|chunks of steel]], [[lump of steel|lumps of steel]], [[sheet metal]], [[small sheet metal]], [[steel frame]]s, and [[heavy duty steel frame]]s are the primary sources of steel in the game.  You get them by wrecking or disassembling vehicles or metal furniture like stoves, refrigerators, ovens, lockers, or display racks.
:1 tool with metal sawing quality of 1 ([[hacksaw]])
:1 tool with screw driving quality of 1([[screwdriver]], duh)
:1 tool with bolt turning quality of 1 ([[pliers]] or [[wrench]], you'll want to have latter)
:welder (100 charges) OR makeshift welder (150 charges) OR integrated toolset (150 charges) OR soldering iron (150 charges) OR acetylene torch (10 charges) (you actually can craft that with soldering iron, huh. Still, you're better off using welder because of efficiency)
:<br>
:1x [[pilot light]]                       (ovens as well, but you can disassemble empty [[lighter]]s for one)
:3x [[lump of steel]] OR 12x [[chunk of steel]] OR 36x [[scrap metal]]
:1x [[small metal tank]]                  (you'll need a welder, welding goggles, and sheet metal)
:3x [[pipe]]                              (disassemble lockers for that, one'll have enough)


If you made it, you are almost there. The last step is to smelt all these tools, starting with [[crucible]]. You can make one using metal (the recipe is easy enough to not be copied here, but metal frame requires crucible, so you need to take your wrench & hacksaw and cut one from vehicles for your needs), or using clay (brick kiln is hard to make, but that's offset by it being dropped by zombies... for some reason).
=== A Forge ===
There are 3 types of forges:
* The rock forge, fueled by charcoal
* The portable electric forge, fueled by batteries
* The vehicle mounted forge rig, fueled by vehicle power


After THAT, it's cakewalk. Start with [[anvil]] (40 lumps of steel isn't very cakewalky, but it's abundant at least), then go for [[pair of aluminium tongs]] (yes, aluminium tongs are made from steel, didn't you know that?), then [[metalworking chisel]], and finally, [[swage and die set]]. They *all* require only steel, and lots of time.
Expect the portable electric forge to go away sometime during {{inlineVer|0.D}} development towards {{inlineVer|0.E}}, and for the power requirements for the vehicle rig to go up substantially.


Congratulations, you're ready to forge!
=== Forging Tools ===
Almost all forging tasks require an [[anvil]], a [[hammer]], [[metal tongs]], a [[metalworking chisel]], and a [[swage and die set]].  If you have a forge and sufficient fuel and raw steel, you can craft all of them.
 
=== Fuel ===
Rock forges require charcoal.  It is possible to scrounge small amounts of charcoal from some houses, but it's usually more efficient to make a charcoal kiln, cut down a few trees, and convert them to charcoal.
 
Electric and vehicle mounted forges run off battery power.
 
== Starting From Scratch ==
It's possible, but tedious, to start with nothing and end up with a katana.  Doing so requires a couple of rounds of making the tools to make the tools.
 
===Primitive Tools===
The first tool you need is a knife.  If you don't have one, you can craft a primitive knife:
1.  {{k|e}}xamine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have [[Skills#Survival|Survival 1]].
2.  Find and {{k|w}}ield a rock, then bash underbrush to produce [[withered plants]].  You'll need 24 or so.
3.  Find a [[heavy stick]].
4.  Use the craft menu ({{k|&}}) to make a primitive knife.
 
If you don't have a firestarting tool, you'll need one.
1.  {{k|e}}xamine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have [[Skills#Survival|Survival 2]].
2.  Use the craft menu ({{k|&}}) to make a fire drill.
 
Next you need tools with Hammer 2, Wood Saw 1, Dig 2, and Wood Cut 2.  Ideally, you have a [[toolbox]], but if not:
1.  Find some more rocks, {{k|w}}ield them, and bash a young tree into [[long stick]]s.
2.  While you have your knife, stand over the long sticks and {{k|B}}utcher them into heavy sticks.
3.  Craft a stone hammer, stone shovel, and stone adze.
4.  {{k|e}}xamine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have [[Skills#Survival|Survival 3]].
5.  Find a wrecked helicopter or some other source of metal, secure some lumps or chunks of steel, and craft a makeshift axe.
 
=== Making Charcoal ===
Before this step, you'll need to [[A Skill Training Encyclopedia|grind]] your [[Skills#Fabrication|Fabrication]] up to 3 if its not there already.
1.  Collect 40 rocks - really, go ahead and collect 120 rocks, you'll need them.  You can {{k|s}}mash small boulders with long sticks to turn the boulders into rocks.
2.  Find a river or a forest tile with clay and {{k|a}}ctivate your shovel next to the clay tile, then collect some clay.
3.  Using the {{k|*}} construction menu, construct a charcoal kiln out of 40 rocks.
4.  {{k|a}}ctivate your makeshift axe next to a tree and chop it down, then repeat the process on each section of trunk and the stump to chop them into logs.
5.  Carry the logs to the charcoal kiln, and {{k|D}}rop them into it until you have 12 logs in the kiln.  Then, with your fire starter in hand, {{k|e}}xamine the kiln and light it up.  Wait 6 hours, and you'll have a lot of charcoal - though not nearly as much as you need, so spend some time chopping down more trees and get more logs.
 
You'll need at least 2500 charcoal, plus any charcoal needed to turn scrap metal or chunks of steel into lumps of steel.  3 full loads of charcoal from the kiln is probably enough, though.
 
=== Clay Crucible ===
Before this step, you'll need to [[A Skill Training Encyclopedia|grind]] your [[Skills#Fabrication|Fabrication]] up to 4 if its not there already.
1.  Using the {{k|*}} construction menu, construct a clay kiln out of 40 rocks.
2.  {{k|w}}xamine it and load it with some charcoal.
3.  Using the clay you acquired earlier, make a clay crucible.
 
=== The rock forge and forging tools ===
Before this step, you'll need to [[A Skill Training Encyclopedia|grind]] your [[Skills#Fabrication|Fabrication]] up to 5 if its not there already.
1.  Using the {{k|*}} construction menu, construct a rock forge out of 40 rocks.
2.  Step back and applaud yourself!  You're almost done!
3.  {{k|w}}xamine the rock forge and load it with some charcoal.
4.  Get 2 heavy duty steel frames, 4 steel frames, 40 lumps or steel, or 160 chunks of steel.  If necessary, {{k|&}} craft 40 lumps of steel out of scrap metal and chunks of steel.
5.  {{k|&}} craft an anvil.
6.  {{k|&}} craft metal tongs.
7.  {{k|&}} craft a hammer.
8.  {{k|&}} craft a metalworking chisel.
9.  {{k|&}} craft a swage and die set.
 
You now have a fully equipped black smithy, and can craft anything else you need.  If you started out with nothing, you may want to craft a [[hatchet]] and [[hacksaw]] at this point - the hatchet replaces your stone knife and stone axe, and the hacksaw will make it easier to cut metal pieces away from wreckage.
 
== Shortcuts in civilization ==
It takes an enormous amount of work to set up a black smithy from scratch.  Survivors with access to civilization can shorten the effort by scavenging appropriately:
 
=== Welders and torches ===
A [[welder]] or oxy-[[acetylene torch]] can substitute for a forge at a couple of key points, such as when you want to craft an anvil.  You can find welder and acetylene torches in mechanics' garages or some houses, or you can make a [[makeshift welder]] out of [[heating element]]s that you scavenge from household ovens and toasters.
 
=== Electric forges ===
You can find electric forges in metalworking shops, some mechanics garages, and labs, or you can make one yourself.  You'll need a [[hammer]], [[hacksaw]], [[pliers]] or [[wrench]], and a [[soldering iron]] or welder.
 
=== Crucibles ===
You can sometimes find crucibles in the back of gun stores.  You can also make a metal crucible from a steel frame and sheet metal - those are rare commodities in a wilderness playthrough, but cheaper than cheap in a city with access to cars.
 
=== Heavy Frame ===
If you start with the lab scenario, and you can find a hacksaw, getting steel frames can be easily done by disassembling heavy machinery, and (rarely) conveyor belts, or steel doorframes if you got one open. These can then be used for the crucible or the anvil.
 
=== Other tools ===
Hammers are a common loot find in houses, as are repair kits that contain them.  Toolboxes are somewhat less common.  Tongs, chisels, and swage and die sets are rarely found through scavenging, but easy to craft.  You need Fabrication 5 to construct a rock forge, but only Fabrication 4 to craft a swage and die set if you found an electric forge somewhere else.
 
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Latest revision as of 15:16, 18 February 2020

Guide based on 0.D (Danny).
Some of the information present here might not apply to future versions.


Blacksmithing or forging items in CDDA is a useful way of creating high end equipment. Forging requires a lot of things:

  • raw steel
  • a forge
  • forging tools
  • fuel
  • high Fabrication skill

This guide will cover building a forge from scratch, and then mention various short cuts.

But first, a quick overview of what you need:

Raw Steel

To make something out of steel, you need steel. Scrap metal, chunks of steel, lumps of steel, sheet metal, small sheet metal, steel frames, and heavy duty steel frames are the primary sources of steel in the game. You get them by wrecking or disassembling vehicles or metal furniture like stoves, refrigerators, ovens, lockers, or display racks.

A Forge

There are 3 types of forges:

  • The rock forge, fueled by charcoal
  • The portable electric forge, fueled by batteries
  • The vehicle mounted forge rig, fueled by vehicle power

Expect the portable electric forge to go away sometime during 0.D (Danny) development towards 0.E (Ellison), and for the power requirements for the vehicle rig to go up substantially.

Forging Tools

Almost all forging tasks require an anvil, a hammer, metal tongs, a metalworking chisel, and a swage and die set. If you have a forge and sufficient fuel and raw steel, you can craft all of them.

Fuel

Rock forges require charcoal. It is possible to scrounge small amounts of charcoal from some houses, but it's usually more efficient to make a charcoal kiln, cut down a few trees, and convert them to charcoal.

Electric and vehicle mounted forges run off battery power.

Starting From Scratch

It's possible, but tedious, to start with nothing and end up with a katana. Doing so requires a couple of rounds of making the tools to make the tools.

Primitive Tools

The first tool you need is a knife. If you don't have one, you can craft a primitive knife: 1. examine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have Survival 1. 2. Find and wield a rock, then bash underbrush to produce withered plants. You'll need 24 or so. 3. Find a heavy stick. 4. Use the craft menu (&) to make a primitive knife.

If you don't have a firestarting tool, you'll need one. 1. examine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have Survival 2. 2. Use the craft menu (&) to make a fire drill.

Next you need tools with Hammer 2, Wood Saw 1, Dig 2, and Wood Cut 2. Ideally, you have a toolbox, but if not: 1. Find some more rocks, wield them, and bash a young tree into long sticks. 2. While you have your knife, stand over the long sticks and Butcher them into heavy sticks. 3. Craft a stone hammer, stone shovel, and stone adze. 4. examine underbrush in a forest or swamp until you have Survival 3. 5. Find a wrecked helicopter or some other source of metal, secure some lumps or chunks of steel, and craft a makeshift axe.

Making Charcoal

Before this step, you'll need to grind your Fabrication up to 3 if its not there already. 1. Collect 40 rocks - really, go ahead and collect 120 rocks, you'll need them. You can smash small boulders with long sticks to turn the boulders into rocks. 2. Find a river or a forest tile with clay and activate your shovel next to the clay tile, then collect some clay. 3. Using the * construction menu, construct a charcoal kiln out of 40 rocks. 4. activate your makeshift axe next to a tree and chop it down, then repeat the process on each section of trunk and the stump to chop them into logs. 5. Carry the logs to the charcoal kiln, and Drop them into it until you have 12 logs in the kiln. Then, with your fire starter in hand, examine the kiln and light it up. Wait 6 hours, and you'll have a lot of charcoal - though not nearly as much as you need, so spend some time chopping down more trees and get more logs.

You'll need at least 2500 charcoal, plus any charcoal needed to turn scrap metal or chunks of steel into lumps of steel. 3 full loads of charcoal from the kiln is probably enough, though.

Clay Crucible

Before this step, you'll need to grind your Fabrication up to 4 if its not there already. 1. Using the * construction menu, construct a clay kiln out of 40 rocks. 2. wxamine it and load it with some charcoal. 3. Using the clay you acquired earlier, make a clay crucible.

The rock forge and forging tools

Before this step, you'll need to grind your Fabrication up to 5 if its not there already. 1. Using the * construction menu, construct a rock forge out of 40 rocks. 2. Step back and applaud yourself! You're almost done! 3. wxamine the rock forge and load it with some charcoal. 4. Get 2 heavy duty steel frames, 4 steel frames, 40 lumps or steel, or 160 chunks of steel. If necessary, & craft 40 lumps of steel out of scrap metal and chunks of steel. 5. & craft an anvil. 6. & craft metal tongs. 7. & craft a hammer. 8. & craft a metalworking chisel. 9. & craft a swage and die set.

You now have a fully equipped black smithy, and can craft anything else you need. If you started out with nothing, you may want to craft a hatchet and hacksaw at this point - the hatchet replaces your stone knife and stone axe, and the hacksaw will make it easier to cut metal pieces away from wreckage.

Shortcuts in civilization

It takes an enormous amount of work to set up a black smithy from scratch. Survivors with access to civilization can shorten the effort by scavenging appropriately:

Welders and torches

A welder or oxy-acetylene torch can substitute for a forge at a couple of key points, such as when you want to craft an anvil. You can find welder and acetylene torches in mechanics' garages or some houses, or you can make a makeshift welder out of heating elements that you scavenge from household ovens and toasters.

Electric forges

You can find electric forges in metalworking shops, some mechanics garages, and labs, or you can make one yourself. You'll need a hammer, hacksaw, pliers or wrench, and a soldering iron or welder.

Crucibles

You can sometimes find crucibles in the back of gun stores. You can also make a metal crucible from a steel frame and sheet metal - those are rare commodities in a wilderness playthrough, but cheaper than cheap in a city with access to cars.

Heavy Frame

If you start with the lab scenario, and you can find a hacksaw, getting steel frames can be easily done by disassembling heavy machinery, and (rarely) conveyor belts, or steel doorframes if you got one open. These can then be used for the crucible or the anvil.

Other tools

Hammers are a common loot find in houses, as are repair kits that contain them. Toolboxes are somewhat less common. Tongs, chisels, and swage and die sets are rarely found through scavenging, but easy to craft. You need Fabrication 5 to construct a rock forge, but only Fabrication 4 to craft a swage and die set if you found an electric forge somewhere else.